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		<title>Comment on Line Out to Mic In 52db L-Pad by Madsci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up... I later found that good results were obtained with a 22K ohm and 150 ohm resistor -- which yields about 43db.

The lower input impedance isn&#039;t too bad - especially if there is no splitting going on, and the low output impedance is probably a good thing in many cases because it will minimize the effect of the impedance of the mic input.

Mackie anything-to-anything patching uses this technique -- always using low impedance outputs and high impedance inputs. In this case, the output of the attenuator is probably lower than the input impedance of the recorder. According to the following post this produces a better result - I should have thought of that.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-scanners/218129-built-lpad-my-bct15-olympus-vn4100-digital-recorder.html&quot; title=&quot;Built an Lpad for my BCT15 and Olympus VN4100 Digital Recorder&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Built an Lpad for my BCT15 and Olympus VN4100 Digital Recorder&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up&#8230; I later found that good results were obtained with a 22K ohm and 150 ohm resistor &#8212; which yields about 43db.</p>
<p>The lower input impedance isn&#8217;t too bad &#8211; especially if there is no splitting going on, and the low output impedance is probably a good thing in many cases because it will minimize the effect of the impedance of the mic input.</p>
<p>Mackie anything-to-anything patching uses this technique &#8212; always using low impedance outputs and high impedance inputs. In this case, the output of the attenuator is probably lower than the input impedance of the recorder. According to the following post this produces a better result &#8211; I should have thought of that.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-scanners/218129-built-lpad-my-bct15-olympus-vn4100-digital-recorder.html" title="Built an Lpad for my BCT15 and Olympus VN4100 Digital Recorder" rel="nofollow">Built an Lpad for my BCT15 and Olympus VN4100 Digital Recorder</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Line Out to Mic In 52db L-Pad by Madsci</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/2010/11/line-out-to-mic-in-52db-l-pad/comment-page-1/#comment-1684</link>
		<dc:creator>Madsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cecil,
A couple of thoughts. It&#039;s been a while since I looked at police scanners -- many channels are likely to be digital these days, but if the gear is older it will be FM and so anything less than a full quieting RF level will let noise through the discriminator / pll. I&#039;m betting that the noise floor is all about the receiver in this case.

Ok, so Instead of +4db you&#039;re dealing with -10db levels, so doing the math I get 52-14=38db.
k=10^(38/20), k=79.4, that&#039;s the ratio of Rseries / Rparallel. Gosh that&#039;s close to 40db, so let&#039;s give that a shot. 10^(40/20) = 100 and that&#039;s easy to work with and likely to yield part values we can easily find.
100K / 1K
68K / 680
56K / 560
47K / 470 

I think I would go with the 100K / 1K, but it may depend on what you have handy.

_M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cecil,<br />
A couple of thoughts. It&#8217;s been a while since I looked at police scanners &#8212; many channels are likely to be digital these days, but if the gear is older it will be FM and so anything less than a full quieting RF level will let noise through the discriminator / pll. I&#8217;m betting that the noise floor is all about the receiver in this case.</p>
<p>Ok, so Instead of +4db you&#8217;re dealing with -10db levels, so doing the math I get 52-14=38db.<br />
k=10^(38/20), k=79.4, that&#8217;s the ratio of Rseries / Rparallel. Gosh that&#8217;s close to 40db, so let&#8217;s give that a shot. 10^(40/20) = 100 and that&#8217;s easy to work with and likely to yield part values we can easily find.<br />
100K / 1K<br />
68K / 680<br />
56K / 560<br />
47K / 470 </p>
<p>I think I would go with the 100K / 1K, but it may depend on what you have handy.</p>
<p>_M</p>
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		<title>Comment on Line Out to Mic In 52db L-Pad by Cecil J. Riggles Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/2010/11/line-out-to-mic-in-52db-l-pad/comment-page-1/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecil J. Riggles Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Madsci
I built your L pad tonight and it does work but the input signal is from a police scanner rec out, -10 db i think. Not the +4 db signal your circuit takes. What resistor would I have to use for an -10 db signal. I used the 220 k resistors and it does record ok but the noise floor is still a problem, but not too bad, heh heh. Thanks in advance for any help.

Cecil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Madsci<br />
I built your L pad tonight and it does work but the input signal is from a police scanner rec out, -10 db i think. Not the +4 db signal your circuit takes. What resistor would I have to use for an -10 db signal. I used the 220 k resistors and it does record ok but the noise floor is still a problem, but not too bad, heh heh. Thanks in advance for any help.</p>
<p>Cecil</p>
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		<title>Comment on Line Out to Mic In 52db L-Pad by Madsci</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/2010/11/line-out-to-mic-in-52db-l-pad/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Madsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I have and use the H4n and it does accept line level inputs. I&#039;ve used it with great success capturing the ambient field with the built-in XY mics while feeding line level signals in the back from the mixing board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I have and use the H4n and it does accept line level inputs. I&#8217;ve used it with great success capturing the ambient field with the built-in XY mics while feeding line level signals in the back from the mixing board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Line Out to Mic In 52db L-Pad by Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks !   I just purchased a Zoom H4N digital recorder.  Excellent device, except no line in.  I will build up your circuit this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks !   I just purchased a Zoom H4N digital recorder.  Excellent device, except no line in.  I will build up your circuit this weekend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu to the rescue by Madsci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure enough -- Win 7 installs and runs happily in a Virtualbox under Ubuntu on my old T43 laptop.
Solved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure enough &#8212; Win 7 installs and runs happily in a Virtualbox under Ubuntu on my old T43 laptop.<br />
Solved!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu to the rescue by nijaba</title>
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		<dc:creator>nijaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you should look at http://www.virtualbox.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should look at <a href="http://www.virtualbox.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.virtualbox.org/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Stormy Weather in Spam Land by Pete McNeil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete McNeil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, and I admit at the moment we&#039;re not seeing a problem with referer. However others are consistently abused (bit.ly for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, and I admit at the moment we&#8217;re not seeing a problem with referer. However others are consistently abused (bit.ly for example).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stormy Weather in Spam Land by Short Url</title>
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		<dc:creator>Short Url</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messages are passed through several layers of filters and tests to assure that maximum spam detection is achieved. &lt;a href=&quot;http://referer.us/make-long-urls-short.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Short Url&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messages are passed through several layers of filters and tests to assure that maximum spam detection is achieved. <a href="http://referer.us/make-long-urls-short.html" rel="nofollow">Short Url</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Stormy Weather in Spam Land by Madsci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madsci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I&#039;ll pass that along. :-)

We&#039;re looking forward to getting the new site up too --- I&#039;ve always been attracted to the blinking lights. Now I get to make some. 

The real-time data we get is fascinating to watch and is constantly leading us in new directions to stay ahead of the blackhats. It will be interesting to see what other folks make of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I&#8217;ll pass that along. <img src='http://www.lifeatwarp9.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We&#8217;re looking forward to getting the new site up too &#8212; I&#8217;ve always been attracted to the blinking lights. Now I get to make some. </p>
<p>The real-time data we get is fascinating to watch and is constantly leading us in new directions to stay ahead of the blackhats. It will be interesting to see what other folks make of it.</p>
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